Nepal itself is unreal, who are Tharus? What is Hindu?

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अव्यकता एव येन्तस्तु स्फुटा एव च ये बहि: । कल्पिता एव ते सर्वे विशेषइस्तित्वन्द्रियाअन्तरे । । १५ । । Those that exist within the mind (as mere subjective imaginations) and are known as the unmanifested as well as those that exist without in a manifested form (as perceived objects) - all are mere imaginations, the difference lying only in the sense-organs (by means of which the latter are cognized). I feel sorry for the stupidity of Nepali people. They are wasting their time for no apparent reason. What are they fighting for? A Tharu province? A Hindu nation? First of all we need to understand that there is no such thing as material universe. There is no material at the very first place to create a solid universe. The solid Earth that we experience in our waking state is merely a play of consciousness. There is no solidity here. In the supreme metaphysical reality, real is considered only to THAT which is present all the time unchanging. Everything else is merely an imagination. Real can never become unreal and unreal can never become Real. For example, when you walk in a dark street, it may appear that you saw a snake, but upon going closer you realize that it was not a snake but a piece of rope. It was rope all the time. The rope never became snake. However, your mind imagined that rope was a snake and you started jumping to protect yourself from that snake which didn't even exist in reality. This world is like a snake on a rope, a false superimposition caused due to the ignorance of true nature of things. There was a time when there was no Nepal. There will come a time when there will be no Nepal (Because where there is birth, there will be death also. Nepal was born in time, so it will also die in time). Also, when Nepal dies it also brings death to all that is associated with Nepal. For example, a pot cannot exit without clay but clay can appear anything it likes. Pot (shape) do not have independent existent but is dependent on clay for its existence. Nepal is also like a pot. Nepal is merely a sound that is imagined in the mind. When mind collapse, Nepal automatically collapse. That which doesn't exist in the beginning, that which don't exist at the end also doesn't exist in the middle whatsoever. Nepal exist right now only in the middle which is like non-existence from the absolute standpoint of reality. What is the use of such existence? It is a dream, a mere imagination of the mind. Dream exist in the middle (There is mind in the beginning, there is dream in the middle which is experienced as real for the time, and at the end when dream collapse mind alone will be at the end). In a similar way, Tharu is merely a sound which doesn't have any corresponding reality. Who can describe the real nature of Tharu? What does this word Tharu means? And what is Hindu? Hindu is also a word that do not have any corresponding reality. All these words become gibberish if the cognizer (mind) stops giving meaning to these words. When you realize this universe exist in a dream, how should you live? Silence alone is real which is all peaceful like Pure Space. Detonate the most powerful atom bomb made by ego-bound humans, Space will not be affected by it. Space transcends all activities. Similarly, Nepali needs to transcends all these ethnic superimposition on them which is falsely imagined by the mind, and be at peace for the shake of peace. Peace alone is real. Om Tat Sat. Hari Om.

ujl · Aug 26, 2015 6:56 PM · 6,328 views

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Mind makes things appear far more solid or graspable than they really are by simple act of labeling and giving value to things. And, when we try to find the solidity or graspability of these mental formations, we cant find any because the mind itself has no independent existence. Mind is a continuously interactive and interdependent process rather than a static and a solid entity. In essence प्रज्ञा पारमिता हृदय सूत्रम् (The Heart Sutra) describes the inherent emptiness of all phenomenon. बोधिसत्व अवलोकितेश्वर in a sermon to शारिपुत्र says, "इह शारिपुत्र रूपं शून्यता, शून्यतैव रूपम्।  रूपान्न पृथक् शून्यता, शून्यताया न पृथग् रूपम्।" This is a beautiful rendition of प्रज्ञा पारमिता हृदय सूत्रम् (The Heart Sutra) in Sanskrit by Indian classical singer Vidya Rao. प्रज्ञा पारमिता हृदय सूत्रम् । [संक्षिप्तमातृका] ॥ नमः सर्वज्ञाय॥ ॥ ऊँ नमो भगवत्यै आर्य-प्रज्ञापारमितायै ॥ आर्यविलोकितेश्वरो बोधिसत्वो गम्भीरां प्रज्ञापारमिता-चर्या चरमाणो व्यवलोकयति स्म-पञ्च स्कन्धाः । तांश्च स्वभाव-शून्यान् पश्यति स्म॥ इह शारिपुत्र रूपं शून्यता, शून्यतैव रूपम्।  रूपान्न पृथक् शून्यता, शून्यताया न पृथग् रूपम्। यद्रूपं सा शून्यता, या शून्यता तद्रूपम् ।  एवमेव वेदना-संज्ञा-संस्कार-विज्ञानं ॥ इहं शारिपुत्र सर्व धर्माः शून्यता, लक्षणा, अनुत्पन्ना, अनिरुद्धा, अमला विमला, अनूना  अपरिपूर्णाः। तस्माच्छारिपुत्र शून्यतायां न रूपं, न वेदना, न संज्ञा, न संस्काराः, न विज्ञानं । न चक्षुःश्रोत्र-घ्राण-जिह्वा-काय-मनांसि । न रूप-शब्द-गन्ध-रस-स्प्रष्टव्य:-धर्माः। न चक्षुर्धातुर्यावन्न मनोविज्ञान-धातु न विधा । न अविधा-क्षयो यावन्न जरा मरणं न जरा मरण-क्षयो । न दुःख-समुदय-निरोध मार्गा । न ज्ञानं न प्राप्तिर् न अप्राप्तिः ॥ तस्माच्छारिपुत्र अत्रात्तित्वाद बोधिसत्वस्य प्रज्ञापारमितामाश्रित्य विहरति अचित्तावरणः। चित्तावरण-नास्तित्वाद अत्रस्तो विपर्यासातिक्रान्तो निष्ठ-निर्वाण प्राप्तः। त्रध्व-व्यवस्थितः सर्व-बुद्धाः प्रज्ञापारमितामाश्रित्य अनुत्तरां सम्यक्-संबोधिम् अभिसंबुद्धाः ॥ तस्मात्ज्ञातव्यं प्रज्ञापारमिता महा-मन्त्रोऽमहा-विधा-मन्त्रोऽनुत्तर-मन्त­्रोऽसमसम-मन्त्रः, सर्व-दुःख प्रशमनः, सत्यम् अमिथ्यत्वात् । प्रज्ञापारमितायाम् उक्तो मन्त्रः। तधथा -- 'गते गते पारगते पारसंगते बोधि स्वाहा'॥ इति प्रज्ञा पारमिता हृदय सूत्रं समाप्तम्॥ Last edited: 27-Aug-15 12:47 AM

Khaobaadi · Aug 27, 2015 12:46 AM

@ Khaobaadi....Thanks for sharing!

ujl · Aug 27, 2015 4:06 PM

Khawobadi: Translations ?

magorkhe1 · Aug 27, 2015 4:12 PM

Mind कै भर मा बाच्न त सकिन्न नि हो | येस्तै कुराले पैला मुसलमानले हिन्दु को बिनास गरे भन्ने सुन्नेको छु | हाल नेपालमा एउटा नेवार को छोरा आफ्नो योग्यता ले प्रधान न्यायधिस बन्न सक्छ !! एउटा मधेसी को छोरा यादव रास्ट्रपति बन्न सक्छ !! एउटा गुरुङ को छोरा प्रधान सेनापति बनेको सब लाई थाहा नै छ !! एउटा लिम्बु सभामुख हुन पुग्छ !! अनि थारु डि .आइ . जी छ भन्ने सब लाई थाह छ !! कपिलबस्तु को प्रमुख जिल्ला अधिकारी मुसलमान नै छन् अहिले !! खोइ कहाँ छ ता अब जातिय र धर्म विभेद ?? फोकटिया नेताले जातपात को कुरा गर्छन अनि जनजाती उचाल्छन् !!....नेता को बोली भन्दा आफ्नो कर्म र योग्यता मा बिस्वास गर्न सिक्नु पर्यो !!

Biruwa · Aug 27, 2015 5:18 PM

chaudhari tharu

Nepalimannaparaunemanche · Aug 27, 2015 6:06 PM

You are welcome @ujl @magorkhe1 To provide a background on प्रज्ञा पारमिता हृदय सूत्रम्, this sutra is a sermon given by Bodhisattva Avalokiteshvara (also widely known as Bodhisattva of compassion) to Shariputra (purported to be the most intelligent disciple of the Buddha). In the sermon, Bodhisattva Avalokiteshvara explains at least three big concepts to Sariputra. 1 Interdependence : Meaning a thing can comes into existence only when all underlying causes and conditions come together and form a whole. Our mind cognizes or perceives and labels that whole as 'a thing' when our mind interacts with it. In short, existence of anything is a highly interdependent process.  2 Emptiness or the inherent emptiness of all phenomenon : Building on the notion of interdependence, the notion of emptiness takes it one step further. It basically says, because existence of anything is a highly interdependent process, everything we experience in the world are highly subjective experiences. Things don't impart or impose any meanings on us on its own. Only when our mind interacts with 'a thing' we assign a particular meaning (or a label) to that thing but so often we presume that things are radiating a particular meaning independent of our mind's interaction with 'things.' 3 Conventional reality (relative truth) and Ultimate reality (ultimate truth), collectively known as Two Truths : The conventional reality is the reality we can sense with our senses in every moment of our everyday life or worldly existence. Ultimate Reality is the inherent emptiness of all phenomenon. The motivation of this sermon (it seems) was to encourage people to re-examine reality to see how much we are mired in anger, rage, delusion, dissatisfaction that brings us suffering largely out of assumption that we are somehow not a part of these highly interdependent processes.  This a very short explanation of प्रज्ञा पारमिता हृदय सूत्रम् based on my probably incomplete knowledge. Guy Newland is probably one of best teachers who can interpret प्रज्ञा पारमिता हृदय सूत्रम् in plain words, at least in my view. His interpretations are largely based on writings and commentaries of various pandits of Nalanda University. (Skip to 9:10 in the video to go to teaching on Emptiness). To read the literal translation of प्रज्ञा पारमिता हृदय सूत्रम् go here http://www.dharmabliss.org/aud... Last edited: 28-Aug-15 12:19 AM Last edited: 28-Aug-15 03:00 AM

Khaobaadi · Aug 27, 2015 10:31 PM

Scientists performing an age old (and famous) quantum physics experiment and proving that reality does not exist until it is measured. "Physicists at The Australian National University (ANU) have conducted John Wheeler's delayed-choice thought experiment, which involves a moving object that is given the choice to act like a particle or a wave. Wheeler's experiment then asks - at which point does the object decide? Common sense says the object is either wave-like or particle-like, independent of how we measure it. But quantum physics predicts that whether you observe wave like behavior (interference) or particle behavior (no interference) depends only on how it is actually measured at the end of its journey. This is exactly what the ANU team found..." Read more at the Australian National University's site at http://www.anu.edu.au/news/all...

Khaobaadi · Sep 4, 2015 2:55 PM

"There was a time when there was no Nepal. There will come a time when there will be no Nepal (Because where there is birth, there will be death also. Nepal was born in time, so it will also die in time). There was a time when there was no Nepal. There will come a time when there will be no Nepal (Because where there is birth, there will be death also. Nepal was born in time, so it will also die in time). "Borders are the worst invention ever made by politicians = Juncker...EU Chief...He's most likely talking about visa free Eurasian union...How would it look...if the whole continent was a single nation...

business5 · Oct 5, 2016 10:58 PM

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