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 किन हामी अरु बन्न खोज्छौ ?

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Posted on 09-11-13 8:07 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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म न्यू यॉर्क मा बस्छु , एहा सारा दुनिया भर का मान्छे भेट हुन्छन ।
Queens को इमिग्रेंट हरु को बस्ती मा बस्ने हुदा अमेरिकन ( गोरा र काला ) जाती भन्दा देसी, स्पेनिश हरु संग नै धेरै भेट घाट हुन्छ ।
मैले आइले आइले आएर याद गरेको एउटा कुरा , हामी नेपाली हरु एहा आउने बित्तिकै किन आफ्नो संस्कृति , आफ्नो धरातल बिर्सेर अमेरिकन बन्न खॊज्छौ ?
मैले चिनेको एउटा बंगाली अमेरिका आएको 22 बर्ष जती भएको छ । उसको छोरी जो एहा जन्मी हुर्की उ घर बस्दा प्राय जसो कुर्ता सूरवाल मै हुन्छे , उसको येही जन्मेको अमेरिकन छोरो को भाषा कुनै भर्खर बंगाल बाट आएको बंगाली को भन्दा कम छैन ।। तर मैले चिनेका थुप्रै नेपाली परिवार का बुदि बुदि आईमै हरु कुनै अबसर मा बाहेक कुर्ता साड़ी को नाम लिदैनन , झाऊ लाग्चा रे , बच्चा हरुलाइ सकी नसकि अंग्रेजी बोल्न लगाउछ्न ।।
अगि मैले दिएको बंगाली परिवार मात्र हैन न्यू यॉर्क माँ अरु तेस्तै धेरै थाउ का मान्छे छन , ब्रुकलिन गयो भने साना साना jews का बच्चा हरु आफ्नो पहिरन लगाएर घुमि रहेका हुन्छन ।।
हामी लाइ मात्र किन तेस्तो wanna be हुन पर्ने ??
बर्ष मा एक दिन दशैं र तिहार मान्दैमा , ana मा गएर भाग लिदैमा र म नेपाली भनेर फेसबुक मा ठूला ठूला पोस्ट गर्दैमा हामी नेपाली हुञ्छौ?
अगि धत्तुआ भन्ने जंतु ले अर्को थ्रेड मा भने जस्तो म भगवान मान्दीन ,हिन्दू धर्म ठीक छैन रे , जन्मेर येत्रो हुन्झेल मानेको धर्म अब उसलाई घाड़ो भो । संसार कै समृद्ध साली देस जो हरेक कुरा मा भगवान को अर्थ लाइ समेत challange दिन्छ , भगवान को अस्तिस्तो माथि नै प्रस्न गर्छ, उसको पैसा मा भगवान को नाम छ , राष्ट्रपति ले भाषण गर्दा भगवान् ले रक्ष्या गरुन भन्छ अणि हाम्रो देस जून भगवान् भरोसा माँ चल्छ उस्कै बासी को येत्रो नाटक ??
हामी किन हामी भएर एहा बस्न सक्दैनौ?? हामी किन आफ्नो भाषा भेस संस्कृति लाइ अंगीकार गरेर अगाडी बडन सक्दैनौ ?? के हाम्रो संस्कृति तेती नराम्रो छ की एअरपोर्ट छोड़ने बित्तिकै बिर्सन पर्छ ? के हामले बच्चा देखि मानी आएको भगवान् तेती नराम्रा छन की एहा पस्ने बित्तिकै म तलाई मान्दिन भन्न पर्छ ??
I am just tired of this wanna be american Nepali people.

 
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Posted on 09-11-13 12:39 PM     [Snapshot: 174]     Reply [Subscribe]
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You seem to be confused. You can't seriously be against people trying to assimilate! I'd rather the stuckups stayed back home than showed resistance towards assimilation. 

There'd have been more credibility to your point if you'd showed your displeasure towards people not partaking in events meant to promote Nepali culture. That seems to be one of the most worrying thing among us, sadly. 

 
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If you are in Rome, do as  Romans do. That doesnt mean that you need to change yourself the way you are but wearing a Kurta or Daura to  "Redneck Heaven" would be little odd to me. And putting up Nepalese flags stickers all over your Toyota Camry and putting up sticker that reads "Buddha was born in Nepal not India" would make me wonder is there any other  better way to represent your country.
Also, the Nepali parents who lack substantial education background here in America are the ones who wants their kids to speak only English whether at home or anywhere to let others know that they are totally American which is kind of hilarious.
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Id say nepalese are more versatile than other nationalities from our geographical region. We adapt and assimilate easily with the culture in contact. Other than that ,its just an immigrant's story.
 
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If you were quite willing to leave everything behind , start a new life from scratch in a different country which has completely different culture, ethos, language, that probably means the language , culture you were born were probably not that important to you. Secondly, if you are quite happy to enjoy the benefits , education and wealth of the first world, the least you can do is assimilate.
 
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 Bittertruth मित्र तपाई ले ब्यग्तिगत इक्ष्या को कुरा उठाउनु भो , मैले येहा मेरो तपाई को मात्र कुरा गरेको छैन . ब्यग्तिगत रुप मा त तपाई सिता परियार जस्तो बनेर बस्छु भने पनि तपाई को इक्ष्या हो कसैले की भन्न सक्दैन . 
मैले उठाउन खोजेको कुरा मात्र येति हो कि अरु देस का मान्छे हरु कालान्तर सम्म येहा बस्दा आफ्नो संस्कृति , भेस भुषा छोडेका छैनन् , हामि मात्र किन भन्ने मात्र हो . तपाई बंगाली हरु लाइ कट्टर बादी भन्नु हुन्छ , त्यो त एउटा उदहारण मात्र हो . तेस्तो धेरै संस्कृति छन् येहा.  त्यो माथि आफ्ना बच्चा हरु लाइ आफ्नो भाषा सकाउनु लाइ म कट्टर बाद को संज्ञा दिन्न . 
riddle ब्रो  , तपाई ले भन्न खोज्नु भएको अर्थ बुजिन मैले  
mangale ब्रो , मैले हामी २४ ७ दौरा सुरवाल लौन पर्छ भनेर कुरा उठाको छैन , त्यो सम्भब नि छैन . तर येति सारो आफ्नो देस भेस भुषा लाइ गालि गर्दै बस्न पनि भएन . गाडी को अगाडी पछाडी स्टिकर टासेर आफ्नो संस्कृति जोगिदैन  , त्यो तपाई ले आफ्नो हुने वाला वा भै सकेको बच्चा लाइ के सेकौनु हुन्छ तेस्मा जोगिन्छ . तपाई कै सब्द मा भन्न पर्दा यो रोम मा सब लाइ आफै ताल ले बस्न हुने हामी लाइ चै रोमन किन हुन पर्ने भन्ने मात्र मेरो विचार हो . संस्कृति भनेको तपाई ले तपाई को घर मा जोगाएर बचाउने कुरा हो , कुनै पार्टी मा लुगा लगाएर वा गाडी को स्टिकर टासेर जोगिदैन मित्र .. 

 
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Let's talk from a sociologists' viewpoint:

In the timeline of civilizations; cultures emerge, evolve and die out. This is natural. Where you happened to be in that timeline and in what culture is SOOOO unimportant. Languages come and go, foods, rituals,..you name it. 
And I agree; not everything we leave behind are bad, nor are good everything we embrace. This is just the demand of time. I love Nepal and am proud to be a Nepali, but clinging to the last drop is very stubborn. Some people who just enjoy their old culture will continue it bit longer, others will create/adapt  to a new one.
And why that kind of inferiority complex that 'we are losing to them'???? I see the foreigners also adapting to our culture, think Yoga. The world is being streamlined, brother.

I visualize cultures as a (pretty) girl's braid, each hair string grouped together, intertwined further, and creating a systematic and pleasant look.  In that process, some short hair strings don't make it to the end, SO??? Why is that a problem?

 
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I have tried to answer your question based on my experience and opinion. One suggestion I can share with you is- get out of your comfort zone, and try to experience the world. There are different ways to promote culture and community. Technology in a sustainable way is where the world is moving towards so that everybody in the world can have a descent life style.

म न्यू यॉर्क मा बस्छु , एहा सारा दुनिया भर का मान्छे भेट हुन्छन । 
Queens को इमिग्रेंट हरु को बस्ती मा बस्ने हुदा अमेरिकन ( गोरा र काला ) जाती भन्दा देसी, स्पेनिश हरु संग नै धेरै भेट घाट हुन्छ । 
मैले आइले आइले आएर याद गरेको एउटा कुरा , हामी नेपाली हरु एहा आउने बित्तिकै किन आफ्नो संस्कृति , आफ्नो धरातल बिर्सेर अमेरिकन बन्न खॊज्छौ ?-- This is not true. Most people want changes. We would like to experience different culture, style, nature and ambience. This helps one to become smarter as exposure to newer things leads one to think in different ways; brain neurons develop in the process. Importance of being smart is to help others and to make this world a better place to live.  

 

मैले चिनेको एउटा बंगाली अमेरिका आएको 22 बर्ष जती भएको छ । उसको छोरी जो एहा जन्मी हुर्की उ घर बस्दा प्राय जसो कुर्ता सूरवाल मै हुन्छे , उसको येही जन्मेको अमेरिकन छोरो को भाषा कुनै भर्खर बंगाल बाट आएको बंगाली को भन्दा कम छैन ।। तर मैले चिनेका थुप्रै नेपाली परिवार का बुदि बुदि आईमै हरु कुनै अबसर मा बाहेक कुर्ता साड़ी को नाम लिदैनन , झाऊ लाग्चा रे , बच्चा हरुलाइ सकी नसकि अंग्रेजी बोल्न लगाउछ्न ।।
--That is okay. Unless you are a woman, you would not know how much you have to struggle to wear that saree..seriously! Maybe one day you will get into fashion, and figure out an easy way to wear a saree. ..English is a common languague that will help the kids to share their ideas, and to learn new things in future. World will certainly be a different place when the kids grow up. I am sure they would want to learn more about Nepali culture in a different way from how we learned growing up. 

 

अगि मैले दिएको बंगाली परिवार मात्र हैन न्यू यॉर्क माँ अरु तेस्तै धेरै थाउ का मान्छे छन , ब्रुकलिन गयो भने साना साना jews का बच्चा हरु आफ्नो पहिरन लगाएर घुमि रहेका हुन्छन ।। 
हामी लाइ मात्र किन तेस्तो wanna be हुन पर्ने ?? 
-- You need to ask jews family how they do it. If they want to do it that way, that's fine. I find it much comfortable to wear shorts and t-shirts than to wear dauruwal and suruwal. Once in a while I do not mind and infact love to share nepali vogue to the folks outside Nepali culture- it's fun!

बर्ष मा एक दिन दशैं र तिहार मान्दैमा , ana मा गएर भाग लिदैमा र म नेपाली भनेर फेसबुक मा ठूला ठूला पोस्ट गर्दैमा हामी नेपाली हुञ्छौ?
-- Most of us probably would like to be the citizen of world rather than just being a citizen of one nation. That's how I view it. Open up your mind dude!
 

अगि धत्तुआ भन्ने जंतु ले अर्को थ्रेड मा भने जस्तो म भगवान मान्दीन ,हिन्दू धर्म ठीक छैन रे , जन्मेर येत्रो हुन्झेल मानेको धर्म अब उसलाई घाड़ो भो । संसार कै समृद्ध साली देस जो हरेक कुरा मा भगवान को अर्थ लाइ समेत challange दिन्छ , भगवान को अस्तिस्तो माथि नै प्रस्न गर्छ, उसको पैसा मा भगवान को नाम छ , राष्ट्रपति ले भाषण गर्दा भगवान् ले रक्ष्या गरुन भन्छ अणि हाम्रो देस जून भगवान् भरोसा माँ चल्छ उस्कै बासी को येत्रो नाटक ??
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- Concept of GOD is a philosophical discussion which is already ingrained in world's societies. Anything philosophical must be discussed with time, because things change over time that makes people change over time. A mathematician might infer Math as a GOD, a scientist might call Science as GOD, a priest might call his Belief as GOD.. since president is involved in different aspects of life, it's just easier for him to call GOD as GOD. Word "GOD" lets us surrender ourselves to one thing in the world that we would not have done it otherwise. Psychologically and socially this is beneficial as this makes you be friendly.
 

हामी किन हामी भएर एहा बस्न सक्दैनौ?? हामी किन आफ्नो भाषा भेस संस्कृति लाइ अंगीकार गरेर अगाडी बडन सक्दैनौ ?? के हाम्रो संस्कृति तेती नराम्रो छ की एअरपोर्ट छोड़ने बित्तिकै बिर्सन पर्छ ? के हामले बच्चा देखि मानी आएको भगवान् तेती नराम्रा छन की एहा पस्ने बित्तिकै म तलाई मान्दिन भन्न पर्छ ?? 
I am just tired of this wanna be american Nepali people.
-- Don't worry about how others behave. If you like to live in a specific Nepali way- with nepali language, vogue, and culture- please feel free to do it your own way. All of us are living in our own way. Nothing wrong with Nepali culture, we simply would like to embrace in different ways.

Keep writing what's in your mind. Reading people's ideas will help you think better. Be careful how you express your emotions in writing, because it is not obvious to read people's emotions in text. Take a practical approach. Thanks





 
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 Its been a while in those college years,  a new  roommate " maha-rani" came to stay with us , she saw a "bikini zone shaving gel" in the bathroom. And later found out we all girls were well groom and clean beside her. After few days, She complains she won't be able to live with us, 'cause we are too americanized..she thinks we are wanna-be american and we wil spoil her..bla bla...She is happy with her spider-web..

But Months later, her BF came to the kitchen and started to Cook Beef...and we all girls complained..she said she doesn't eat beef either, but she said  since we all wanna be american..she has no problem with that...

Within two months, she managed to get white boy, green card within three years..but all girls struggling to pay-off the tuition/rent...

SHE TOLD US THERE IS A WAY THAT YOU CAN TO BE AMERICANIZED WITH BENEFITS...

 
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 Yau facebook kaslai jantu vaneko, you are the animal. If people are willing to learn good culture which is American let them be. I like Amercan culture very much and i like to dress up like them. I don't want to wear dhaka topi, daura suruwal etc, for me it looks hick or gawar. I don't care about jews Americans or Mexican Americans or Asian Americans but I like white culture who are Christians. 
 
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 जब हामी आफ्नो परिचय (identity) बिर्सन्छौ,तब हामी गुमनाम (Pendulum) हुन्छौ l Techinically we'll become an american citizenship (dont forget they r calling ALIAN to us) but our ethenic is always be Nepali.this one stay with us forever.this is the truth.


गाई लाई धोएर कहिलेइ गधा हुँदैन......सबैलाई चेतना भया l 
 
जय सम्भो ...जय नेपाल 

By the way thanx facebook for nice topics
 

 
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There are three groups involved in discussion here, and I see a huge gap in perception between the first two groups.

The first group thinks the second group are wanna-bes. They thing this group is blindly copying the American culture because they revere this culture and want to be like Americans.

The second group thinks the first group is stuck-up and is resistant to change.

The third group sees the middle ground somewhere; I hope to be in this group. First and foremost, each individual has as much prerogative to follow the culture and lifestyle of his choosing as any other. Just because he starts rapping doesn't mean he is blindly copying a culture. Say an American likes Yoga and meditation, are you going to blame him and call him wanna-be desi? Language is a good way of preserving a culture but just because a Nepali uses english doesn't make him/her forgetting his/her culture. Yes, few force this language on others even when they aren't comfortable with it; e.g. the case Rahulvai stated above. If it is a Nepali/Nepal language program, what's the point of speaking in english all the time. Reminds me of the Nepali actress' thank-you speech.

Just because a person doesn't dress the way you want them to dress and doesn't speak the language you want them to speak, don't call him/her a wanna-be. There could be million other reason why this is being done.
 
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 Bizquiz , all your replies leads to same point , mind your own business and leave others. thats not what i am talking about. 
Sexy in Sari , Dont worry i dont have any chances of getting white girls in NY and you just dont clean it , show it too so that you will get som1 haha
Dhattuwa , Talk of Devil and devil is here , sh!t like you pis$ me off so much that i have to say this in sajha मुजी नजिक आइस भने अझै गोवर गनाउछस होला खुब भएस अमेरिकन .
Kiddo दाजु , मैले अगि भने झैँ लुगा एउटा साधान मात्र हो , मैले दौरा लाउदैमा म नेपाली हुने र नलाउदैमा मा नेपाली नहुने हैन . हामी हाम्रो सन्तति लाइ के सेकाउदै छौ , हाम्रो येह हुने भावी पुस्ता ले के हाम्रो संसृति हाम्रो देस को प्रतिनिधित्तो गर्न सक्छ कि सक्दैन भन्ने मात्र मेरो प्रश्न हो . 

 

 
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@Facebook. Prashna ramro ra sahi chha. The only exception I took was with your labelling of the non-followers as "wanna-bes," without even knowing why they are doing it.

Have you considered that they might believe in a bigger world model? Have you considered that their idea of preserving their culture is not constrained by language or clothing? You gave examples of jews, Those Jews you are referring to are Hasidic Jews. Are you saying only hasidic jews preserved Jewish culture. Have you considered American Jews are equally preserving their heredity/identity and culture without being constrained by hebrew language or black hat and suit? Their support for Israel and their culture is still strong even when they don't look and appear different from any other Americans.

Think about it.
 
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 Ho  Kiddo bro , thats the point. they  do support their culture even though they dont dress up like that. they do teach their child their languages and culture.  
What about those "wanna be" from ours, they dont speak nepali bwtween nepali , they dont teach Nepali language/culture to their kids and most important they goes here are there talking about sh!t about own nation , religion and culture. I am talking against them? 
 
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Facebook brother. I guess you were talking about the other group then. While I see your point, I can't say they are doing it wrong as I certainly don't want to be the judge of right and wrong thing. Yes, it looks ridiculous at times; it makes me wonder, like you, why our culture is not like others; but then I think that's their life. Let them live the way they want to. How about you and I and others who think alike keep doing what we believe in? My identity is with my culture so I will preserve it however I think is right.
 
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Facebook, I'm really interested to know the meaning of "wannabe" in your vocabulary. I think you're using it too loosely.
 
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Don't know much about other stuff, but one thing is for sure, many Nepalese parents get so proud when their toddlers speak English. 
These people don't know once their child go to school they will speak as good as native american (didn't mean Red Indians). I and my wife talk to our son in Nepalese and we do our best to teach all Nepalese culture and religion.
That doesn't mean we are trying to make him a typical Nepalese, he was born here and lives here rest of his life. 
DON'T WE WANT INDIAN-NEPALESE'S (madhesis) CHILDREN TO BE A 'TYPICAL NEPALESE' ? THEN WHY SO MUCH FUSS ON THIS ISSUE??

 
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आफु को हु को पहिचान आफैलाई नभए पछि आफ्नो पहिचान आफुले आदर्स ठानेको मानिसको सहारा लिन्छन | तपाइले चिन्नु भएको छैन त्यो आदर्स व्यक्ति : यो उसको हैन तपाइको प्रोब्लेम हो | He or she is trying to acquire new status.
नजाने गाउको बाटै नसोध्नु : किन बन्न खोज्यो तेस्को जड खोज्नु भएको भए सायद यो उत्तर पनि पाउनु हुन्थ्यो !


 



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