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Posted on 09-06-13 11:49 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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While watching match between Nepal VS India, I saw people holding banner saying "Buddha was born in Nepal, not in India." Was this banner really necessary for this match? Does this kind of attitude shows how immature Nepalese are?
 
Posted on 09-06-13 12:19 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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That certainly made me cringe. Why we keep worrying about these petty issues is beyond me. The last time I cringed so hard was when Rabi Lamichhane had a similar banner during his radio show.  

We really are a bunch of  hypocrites, aren't we? We laud Sushil Chhetri and Bhaichung Bhutia, claiming they're Nepalese simply because they speak Nepali. Thousands of Nepalese smsing their votes (Prashant Tamang) all the way to India and actually, a bunch of 'em going above and beyond to collect funds in remote places to sms their votes was another cringeworthy moment. 

It's high time we stopped acting like hypocrites. Carrying feelings of animosity towards them for Indian government's interference in our domestic issues time and again is definitely understandable. Dwelling on pointless issues like this is certainly idiotic. 
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Posted on 09-06-13 12:34 PM     [Snapshot: 61]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Some of the youtube comments during the match was really cringeworthy. I really can't understand them.

It is just a beautiful game and people should learn to respect their opponents. It is not just India, even with pakistan and aghanistan. Calling others name such as bomber and stuff.

Why are Nepalese people filled with so much hate? I hope people will refrain from such actions.

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Posted on 09-06-13 12:52 PM     [Snapshot: 125]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 its ignorance my friend. although nepali people have masters and phd but their knowledge is limited to books only. they do not know how to be social and a better person. our society emphasizes degrees than education-those two things are very different!

baburam bhattarai, a person who holds phd, is bent on socialism but does not uderstand that nowehre in the world socialism and communism have succeeded.

most of our sachibs in ministries and higher in government have phds and masters but they lack EDUCATION!

 
Posted on 09-06-13 1:00 PM     [Snapshot: 109]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Well, it's utterly nonsense. Do the world even care?
In Korea, they have 7 types of Buddha, what about that? I guess only few of us know that. What are they going to do about that? Can there be SEVEN? 

I saw few minutes of match between MDV vs. AFG today. The Dashrath Stadium was kind of empty. 

Having said that, best of luck for NEP team in semi vs. AFG. 





 
Posted on 09-06-13 2:54 PM     [Snapshot: 252]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Even though buddha was born in Kapilvastu, Nepal was not in existence at that time, neither was India. He got his enlightenment from Gaya which is now part of India.
I don't think anyone will argue whether Buddha was born in Nepal or India but even some of us keep stating like this. It only proved that we have nothing else.
I really feel shameful when people with pride tell others that budda was born in Nepal and so so.
People should stop saying and sharing such things.


 
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And also this song.. this is sick from Singers like him....


 
Posted on 09-06-13 3:30 PM     [Snapshot: 297]     Reply [Subscribe]
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What on earth was that? 
 
Posted on 09-06-13 5:47 PM     [Snapshot: 440]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Wow, just beacuse you feel  it was "cringeworthy" does not mean you lambast them. It might not mean anything to you, but it means a lot to some.They are not bothering you, they are not beating the Indians. It is a freedom of speech. Freedom does not always have to be your liking. I feel it has been dragged on for a while now and needs to to stop. I share my akwardness too, but I cannot stop people expressing their opinion.

If they are going to do it, why not do it at a big game and get the media attention, instead of stupid facebook. I know it is getting annoying, but hey, it is better than nothing. If nothing else, it is atleast bringing some pride and nationality among these jobless people. A small pride for a stupid thing is better than "no" pride at all. You see, we do not have too many choices to fight for, to brag about, to be proud of. We have no role models to look up to. Of the few things, Buddha is definetly on the top list. I know now you'll go about preaching how we should create newer things to be prode of and move on. But try explaning that to those people in the stadium, you'll face the reality.

And again people who are trying to bring history to prove it is not a big deal. Regardless what countries were there at ancient time, it does not matter. What it is now is the subject of interest. Jesus was born in Jerusalem and Romans were the ruler. Yet, Romans do not say "Jesus was born in Rome". Jerusalem and Rome are two different place now. Even if we were ruled by some dynasty of Indian kings back then, it is Nepal NOW. And Indians have always claimed that Buddha was born in India to the west, which is a false claim. Yes, it matters for some people, maybe not to you. Leave them alone. If India was to start saying "Mohammed was born in India", what do you think will happen next?

But again, some people give up and avoid the "cringe" to feel comfortable even when they know it is a lie. If you are ashamed of it, please turn your eyes and ears away. Other people have the rights to express their opinion as long as they don't break the laws. If you don't have the balls to fight, let others do it. Throught the history, many civilizations have fought for territory, ideology, politics and often for the stupidiest thing. Why not this?
 
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Posted on 09-06-13 6:36 PM     [Snapshot: 514]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Seriously, Vhoote where do i sign up for "Cringefest"?

WHat the ef do you mean by "they are not beating the Indians?" Are you in troll mode bro?

Offcourse it bothers me when each time supporters resort to disrespectful behaviour. And it is not just with india with almost every opponent.

So just because sizeable portion of Nepalese youth are without employment, they lack role models do they need to resort to this. Is this your justification for such action?

How do i turn my eye and ears away while i am watching a football match and people are chanting "Dhoti, dhoti" in the stadium.

"Throught the history, many civilizations have fought for territory, ideology, politics and often for the stupidiest thing. Why not this?"

what the ef does this even mean? Do you want to go to war bro? Sign up for military.

 
Posted on 09-06-13 6:37 PM     [Snapshot: 507]     Reply [Subscribe]
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# WTF was that vid? Never expected that from "Timra Nayan" and "Luki luki" singer.

# Why people from the country where Buddha was born buy/sell TICKET IN BLACK?

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# Well, it's all about self-dignity and pride of having Buddha being born in Nepal. I'd like to give an example:

For all fathers who are living abroad and raising their kids;
If your kid comes one day asking you the question with a confused facial expression,"Dad, was Buddha born in India?"

Father: No son, who told you.

Son: Well our History Teacher did. And, it's written in our textbook.

How would you feel about that?

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Putting example aside, coming to the facts, I saw news few years back that countries like Japan and Korea's elementary school history book contain the info like Buddha was born in India.

Nevertheless, THIS (showing banner in stadium) is definitely not the way to solve but to show our stupidity. I don't know if our dear politicians have raised their voice about this issue in UN General Assemblies.

OH, DARN!!...HAHA I JUST REMEMBERED OUR DEAR LADY NETAJI'S SPEECH FEW YEARS BACK IN UN Conference.

 
Posted on 09-06-13 6:46 PM     [Snapshot: 526]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Vhotee (Why'd you pick a derogatory nickname like this?),I don't see why you've got problems with me cringing at the sights of such drivel. You said it yourself, "freedom of speech/expression", innit? 

Regardless of how differently we feel about this, I can't help but reiterate - this is a small issue. Sweating over nonsense like this simply isn't worth it. In fact, I'd go onto say farcical would be an understatement. We tend to take our pride way too seriously. We brag about having the highest mountain in the world. We 'took' pride in being the only hindu kingdom in the world and what not. How'd you feel if you came across an Indonesian bragging about belonging to a country where 99% of the entire population is follow Islam religion? Imagine coming across a San Franciscan in NYC taking pride about Golden Gate bridge. Big f******* deal, eh? 

Back to the topic itself, racial slurs thrown at Indians was pathetic and moronic. More often than not, it's a bunch of hypocritical pricks who carry crappy attitude like that. I mean, you grow up listening to Hindi songs, watching Hindi movies and serials , adoring Indian actors/actresses/cricket team/ cricketers but when situations like all these arise, this turns into a dick measuring contest. 



 
Posted on 09-06-13 6:54 PM     [Snapshot: 543]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Vasudev and Riddle
I was not aware of people calling "Dhoti" which is disrespectful. I'm against that and is disgusting. Although I have not read the full story what happened in the stadium, I'm more counteracting to people who think it is a "shameful" thing to have a banner expressing their opinion. Other than that, what exactly is your point? War? Read carefully, where did I mentioned war?
Tell me why they should not make a big deal of Buddha and why they should not have that banner? 
Please mind your manners and stop with all the curse.

@Riddle
I have no problem if people are proud of anything that is a fact, even if it a simple thing. It might not be a big deal for you. So you're saying people cannot take pride at the Golden Bridge in NYC? If someone does, what is your problem? Can't he not? Is there a law against it?

Again, I'm against calling names and treating Indians poorly by our fellow Nepali. But if few of them wants to let the world know that Buddha was born in Nepal, what exactly is your problem. No big deal for you, good. Let them continue.

 
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Posted on 09-06-13 7:03 PM     [Snapshot: 559]     Reply [Subscribe]
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"Tell me why they should not make a big deal of Buddha and why they should not have that banner? "

err, simply put, because it is overdone, tacky, and cringeworthy?
 



 
Posted on 09-06-13 7:23 PM     [Snapshot: 595]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Anil GURUNG and Jumanu RAI scored goals against India. For GURUNGs and RAIs, I'd never address them (or use them anywhere) as Vhootee. Calling "Vhootee" is disrespectful. I am against that and is disgusting.
 
Posted on 09-06-13 8:01 PM     [Snapshot: 634]     Reply [Subscribe]
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It only shows that Nepalis people are holding on dearly to that one thing that gives them any source of pride. Which is ironical because Buddha teaches us to give up pride.

 
Posted on 09-06-13 8:09 PM     [Snapshot: 625]     Reply [Subscribe]
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It was an international football match between two sovereign nations. People were also holding other banners which was within scope of the match, for example, "We are Red," Which means we support our team. But the Banner about Buddha seems like out of context for this match. It is a football match. One Indian even said to Kantipur TV, the spectators are hostile. If we, Nepalese, cannot provide a warm and comfortable arena to these international players then in near future they might even reject coming to Nepal for any kind of match mentioning the hostile nature of Nepalese towards Indians players which infact lowers their self-esteem and can affect their ability to perform. Once upon a time, we used to say, "Atithi Devo Bhawa, which means guests are like gods. And now we treat our guest as demons! If this is the culture we are heading, I don't see any hope for Nepal in near future. Culture plays a huge role in the development of a nation. If one cannot even control his/her sense organ and indulge in sense gratification then such behavior will ultimately lead to suffering. Similary, if Nepalese as a whole don't built a culture which is more intellectual rather than hardcore negative emotion based impulse, then there is no doubt that Nepal will vanish like darkness vanishes when sun shines in the morning!
 
Posted on 09-06-13 8:39 PM     [Snapshot: 687]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Riddle
 "simply put, because it is overdone, tacky, and cringeworthy"
Are we talking Bollywood movies heres   
     , I'm sorry I might be at the wrong place.
Peace out

@UJI
I can understand it might be out of context, but this is not the first time it has been done. International games (Olympics, World Cup etc) are always filled with controversaries, always. I agree wholeheartdly that aggression and hostility towards a foreign team is unnecessary and should be punishable by the law. But I think the banner is acceptable and should be ok.
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Posted on 09-07-13 9:39 AM     [Snapshot: 890]     Reply [Subscribe]
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I agree with Vootee...why is it such a big deal. The issue is important and what better oppurtunity to educate mass of indians do some research on where Buddha was born. I am amazed to see "budhha was born in India" concept dug deep at general people level.

Ask your coworker, he truely belieevs Buddha was an Indian. Indians need to be in the habit of saying Buddha was born in former Indian Subcontinent which is part of Nepal now.

This was a great oppurtunity taken by those guys to let the general Indians know how Nepali feel about Buddha.
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Beside Banners are not new. Research Americans banner that read " Soviets get the puck out of Afganistan" in the olympic hockey game.

There are always some odd banners here and there. Its not a big deal. Most general Indians won't even know what that banner means. Many would probably just think it was a joke as they truely believe Buddha was an Indian.

 
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http://nagariknews.com/main-story/story/6980

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