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Posted on 09-20-08 8:31 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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'Cut-off' in govt funding for jatras triggers protest; Home Ministry urges calm

People from Newar community in Kathmandu staged angry protests against the government on Saturday for not allocating budget for traditional jatras (religious festivals) observed in Kathmandu Valley.

People from Newar community protesting the government's decision to cut funding to jatras (traditional religious ceremonies) at Basantapur in Kathmandu, Saturday, Sept 20 08. nepalnews.com/rcm

The protesters blocked traffic at several places by burning tyres on the road. There were protest rallies in Basantapur, Teku and Kalimati areas throughout the day. Shops remained closed in these areas with the protesters frequently clashing with the police.

The local Newars took to the streets saying the Finance Minister, who unveiled the budget estimate for the fiscal year 2008/09, cut off the funding for jatras. Protests had started as soon as the Finance Minister presented the budget at the parliament.

On the contrary, some news reports quoting government sources said the funding for jatras has not been cut off. However, the Finance Ministry has not said anything on the matter.

Meanwhile, issuing a statement this evening, the Home Ministry urged the protesters to call off their protest and help maintain peace and security in the capital city.

The ministry also said security has been beefed up in some areas in the capital to prevent possible violence in the wake of the protests. nepalnews.com mk Sept 20 08


 
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Posted on 09-22-08 4:01 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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well my fren i'm aware abt it.
but ppl have misunderstanding that it's an attack and insult to the newari cultures. if it's really so, obviously that should enrage the newars in bkt and patan too right. they have other festivals like rato machhindranath, bisket jatra (may b the most craziest).

 
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The problem is if govt cuts fund then all these people who are living their life from these Jatras .They dont have anywhere to go. They have family and kids too. Its like American indians in United States surviving through the Casinos. Now at sudden , govt says ok we wont allow u guys operating casinos. What they do? Kill themselves. Instead of helping them , some people tried to intimidate them and whole community. I would like same thing happen to these people and laugh infront of them one day.

 

 


 
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sujitcha dai ho ki didi,

anyway, comparing red skins i.e. (american indians = feri nabujla) with newars = OMG ( I pity on your knowledge).

while redskins are minority and can be only found in reservations but newars are found everywhere in Nepal. so there is no logic in your comparison.

 


 
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NOW THE ATOMIC IS SPEAKING!!!!! WHAT THE FC ..UK IS WRONG WITH YOU BABURAM???........YOU ARE MAKING A BIG MISTAKE DONT TRY TO BE OVER SMART A.SS , DONT YOU EVER THINK THAT YOU GONNA SAVE SOME MONEY SPENDING OVER THESE OUR PRECIOUS CULTURE.....FU... CK U IF U WANNA SAVE ,,IF U REALLY WANT .....CUT OFF THE SALARIES AND ALLOWANCES ON MOTHER ..FU.. CUKIN MINISTERS....CUT OFF ON YOURSELF.......DONT RIDE IMPORTED SILVERSTAR CARS ...PROVIDE CHEAP INDIAN VEHICLES TO ALL MINISTERS........IMPOSE HIGH TAX ON CABIN< DANCE RESTAURENT.....>>>>>>>>DONT DARE TO SWITCH OFF THE LIGHTS OVER OUR CULTURE....NO MATTER ITS INDRAJATRA OF KATMANDU, BISKET JATRA OF BHAKTAPUR, MACHINDRA NATH OF PATAN...................ANIMALS THAT ARE KILLED IN ONE OF THE FESTIVAL IN KALAIYA.. I FORGOT THE NAME, U WANT STOP THAT TOO??? HOW ABT CHATH......HOW ABT DASHAIN AND TIHAR,,,,,,,,U GONNA CLOSE DAKSHINKALI AND BHADRAKALI TOOO..........................AS FAR AS I CONCERN, KILLING ANIMALS IS BRUTAL I  KNOW, BUT ITS NOT THAT BEING FINANCE FINISTER U GOTTA MAKE SUCH KIND OF DECIONS ON THESE FESTIVALs, SPANISH HASNT STOPPED THEIR GAME WHERE THAT FOUR FEET IS SURROUNDED BY THOUSANDS OF PPL..........KILLING ANIMALS...EATING MEAT OR NOT>...THATS A DIFFERENT AND SEPARATE MATTER OF TALK TO BE DEBATED AND PRESTENDED.......BUT.................BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THIS GOVERNEMT IS MISLEADING THE COUNTRY..............

 
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Some unfortunate consequences of this sad episode triggered by BRB's senseless decision to stop funding for some Indrajatra rituals are gratually unfolding. Dumping its  glorious history into dustbin, the jatra that had been officially observed as a state ceremony for so many years has now suddenly been reduced to a cultural event significant only to the Newars. While Newars are proud to declare it as a NEWAR MATRAKO MAHAN JATRA  and seek some temporary negotiation between some Newar representatives and the government, some others have started saying 'Khuchhing' to Newars. Though the festival has been basically celebrated only by the Newars, compulsory participation of the head of the state and observance of public holiday made it an official celebration in the capital, making it more than an ordinary cultural event of Newars only. And, I believe that most non-Newars in the capital would not want to see these cultural events losing significance even if they do not participate actively on it.

The consequences are clear. Indrajatra, and all other jatras and cultural events for that matter, that had long been observed as events of state significance, will gradually be divided among ethnic lines till they become insignificant in the national perspective. BRB and his companions are clear in their ideology of evolving into a society of 'international'  nature (see the official dress of the prime minister) rather than promoting things of national identity especially cultural and religious ones. A few thousand rupees is not is not the crux of the matter, it's really the popular and national significance attached with the event. This episode has reduced both by letting the event be tagged as a celebration exclusively for a specific community.


 
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Some unfortunate consequences of this sad episode triggered by BRB's senseless decision to stop funding for some Indrajatra rituals are gratually unfolding. Dumping its  glorious history into dustbin, the jatra that had been officially observed as a state ceremony for so many years has now suddenly been reduced to a cultural event significant only to the Newars. While Newars are proud to declare it as a NEWAR MATRAKO MAHAN JATRA  and seek some temporary negotiation between some Newar representatives and the government, some others have started saying 'Khuchhing' to Newars. Though the festival has been basically celebrated only by the Newars, compulsory participation of the head of the state and observance of public holiday made it an official celebration in the capital, making it more than an ordinary cultural event of Newars only. And, I believe that most non-Newars in the capital would not want to see these cultural events losing significance even if they do not participate actively on it.

The consequences are clear. Indrajatra, and all other jatras and cultural events for that matter, that had long been observed as events of state significance, will gradually be divided among ethnic lines till they become insignificant in the national perspective. BRB and his companions are clear in their ideology of evolving into a society of 'international'  nature (see the official dress of the prime minister) rather than promoting things of national identity especially cultural and religious ones. A few thousand rupees is not is not the crux of the matter, it's really the popular and national significance attached with the event. This episode has reduced both by letting the event be tagged as a celebration exclusively for a specific community.


 
Posted on 09-23-08 11:19 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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All you people celebrating the victory on the attack of other's cultures, you've shown you true colors and attitudes. See who're the hypocrites here! Who gives the animal sacrifices the most in Nepal? Are they newars or other groups? Animal sacrifices is the barbaric culture, and it should be stopped and for all. Weren't you the guys who were crying whenever there's a thread calling to stop for animal sacrifices, and your mere argument was for preserving your barbaric cultures.

Animal sacrifices should be stopped, and it should be stopped in all the temples.


 
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And when maoists were cutting the tuppis of bahuns and attacking other cultures, newars couldn't go to protest that, but at least we were not celebrating the victory on the attack of other's cultures, neither we were trying to justify bastard maoists actions.

Are some of you bastards also trying to tell that newars brought maoists?


 
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Are you trying to delude us with your cunning arguments that tourists go to Nepal only to see mountains and natural sceneries? There're all kinds of tourists with all kinds of purposes. Put yourself into the shoes of tourists if you've ever gone any place just for the purpose of visit. Won't you add more value if you could see natural sceneries together with all their unique cultures? Do you know that universities, little towns save millions of dollars just to preserve the old house? Talk to the locals of the place wherever you're living and try to tell them that their cultures are so stupid and has no rationale.

Are you bastards making fun of chariot pulling festivals?


 
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gahugoro dai,

jawos, jawos aru jawos.


 
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I dont understand how it is animal barberic when killing in the temples and not at the butcher shop....or do you meant to go green - banned on meat eating...


 
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I don't think newars brought the maoists. It was masterminded and planned by bahuns and executed by bhotes who succumbed to the greed shown by the bahun masterminds.


 
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It is barbaric because animal also have feelings and show emotions. How would they be feeling when they see the blood of their own clans and see being slaughtered. There're tons of other things why it is barbaric, and it has not been disussed in other threads too. I can try to dig out if you're really interested. Besides that, there could be all kinds of psychological consequences because of these barbaric traditions of animal sacrifice. What kind of attitude and personality would be developed on child's mind when they see animals being sacrificed that way.

I listened in BBC yesterday that people in Chitwan celebrated "lakhe dance" (masked dance) perhaps for the first time, why did they need to do that even if it wasn't really the traditions there. Gaijatra is not only limited to Kathmandu. People in Pokhara also celebrates gaijatra too, and perhaps in other towns too.


 
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worthless piece of convesation.
 
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BathroomCoffee:

"If they don't want to fund Newari programes then newars sould stop paying government taxes end of story.

Its like asking sherpas not to climd mountains anymore. Newari culture is defined by these festivals, IT IS A MAJOR ATTRACTION FOR TOURISTS. They are going after the very elements that bring the bread to tourist industries. THEY MUST BE OUT OF THEIR FUGGING MINDS. NEXT THING YOU KNOW.... THEY WILL MAKE EVERYONE WEAR UNIFORMS. HA HA HA

YO GADHA POLITICIAN HARU KO BUDDHI LAI KE BHAA HOLAAA."

 

Hey Sh!tBev!

Remeber when I said that getting rid of the nightlife in Kathmandu was wrong while you argued for the Maoists?  No? I do.

Either case, looks like u finally left the dark side.  Lets just hope its permanent.

tare-mam.


 
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Rahulbhaiya,

मान्छे मर्न छोडेर संयुक्त राष्ट्रसंघ को कन्तोन्मेन्त मा बस्ने माओवादी लाई संयुक्त राष्ट्रसंघ ले खान बस्ने ब्यवस्थ गरेको छ । कुनै नेपाली को जहन परिवार पलिन्दै अको छ, उनिहरु को पेत म लत्ती हनेर फेरी जंगल फर्कौनु राम्रो होइन । नत्र कुनै पनि देश म शन्ती कयम हुँदैन । राज्य पक्ष र बिद्रोही पक्ष बाट भाका गल्ती लाई माफ गर्नु को बिकल्प म देख्दिन।

बदी पैरो ले जनता भोकै छन भन्नु भयो नाउन्द पनि जनत भोक भोकै थिए। तपाईंले भनेजस्तै १०८ वत खसी बोका रङा बदिग्रस्थ क्षेत्र को जनताले पौने थिएनन होला । ४२% गरीबएे भको देश को नियती शायद यस्तै हुँदो राइछ।
अर्थ न बर्थ गोविन्दे गाई भनेझै के ? सछी तेत्तिक (१०८ खसी बोका राङा कस्ले खन्दो राइछ) तपाईंलाई थाहा होल ? एसो प्रकाश पर्नु भाई हुन्थ्यो ?? 

प्रचन्ड श्रीमती शाहीत अमेरिका म मोज गर्न अका राइचन । शाही बताउनु भयो, अस्ती चीन तेस्पची ईन्डिया र अहिले उम्रिका, राष्ट्रप्रमुख हरु को छुट्टी बितौन एसरी घुम्चन अरी । अनी बिनकाम एसरी घुम्ने राष्ट्र प्रमुख हरुलाई अर्को देश को प्रमुख्ले रातो कार्पेट ओच्यएर स्वागत किन गर्द राइचन, ४४ जन बसइनेस्स्मेन पनि राष्ट्र प्रमोख सँग किन गक होलन लव लस्कर लगेर तपाईंलाई बदी थाहा छ  . शायद गरीब देश क राष्ट्रप्रमुख ले बहिर जानु हुन्न, भन्नु भको होल मुङ्लङ तिर बाट ।

बिदेश गैपनी श्रीमती लाई लनु हुन्न, लाउरा बुउशले खै त सितादिदी भनेर सोधिन भने प्रचन्ड ले क् भन्लन फेरी । कि फ्रान्स का सर्कोजी जस्ताइ गिर्ल्फ्रेन्ड लिएर बिदेश भ्रम्मन गर्ने सल्लह दिनु भको होल ।
मरुभुमी बाट एती नै ।
मरुभुमी बाट एती नै ।
उही चङ्गा उदौने दाई राहुलभैया लाई दशै को शुभकामना शाहीत, १०८ खसी बोकराङा शाहीत सप्रेम भेट


 
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हाम्रो कुमारी देखाएर पर्यटक भित्राउन बन्द गर


द ल्यान्ड अफ लिभिङ् गडेस भनेर विदेशमा प्रचार गर्न बन्द गर


विदेशी अतिथिलाई स्वागत गर्न धिमे बाजा बजाउन बन्द गर


कुमारी देखाएर नेपालको परिचय दिन हुने अनि त्यसबाट विदेशी पर्यटक भित्राउन हुने

अनि त्यही कुमारीको जात्राका लागि 15 हजार रुपैयाँ दिन चाहिँ राष्ट्रिय बजेटको दुरुपयोग ?


khai yo maobadi neta haru le ke garna khojeko develop garchu bhandai ma chali raheko culture ta bandh garna bhaena ni anyjasko afno kunai culture chiana tesle ke arka ko culutre ko feeling bujla .


 
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wot the f***, i just wrote a f***ing long argument about this f***ing topic n this f***ing site f***ed it all.....

why rnt we allowed to say f*** here again?!

getting back, wot the f*** is wrong with ya'll d***heads, newari festival, attack on Newar culture...F*** ya'll for that....do u only see newar ppl in indra jatra? dont u seee any bahun, or chhetri or thakuris, or madhesis in basantapur... or shall we restrict the whole basantapur to jus newars now? i remember the sign in pashupatinath temple, 'hindus only' f*** U biyat**.... hindus only my ass...all f***ing hypocrites....whoever says indra jatra is a newari culture, get ur heaad outta ur stinky hairy behind.....n the f***ing fight is not about the f***ing money, its about our identity as nepali , its about securign our rights, today the terrorists stopped funding indra jatra, tomorrow there will be no indrajatra, day after there will be no holi, no tihar.... is that wot we want!

n wot about dashain? whose f***ing festival is that? dont buddhist ppl fly kites, or do tika, or plant jamara? n when the f***ing terrorists decide to stop dashain, do u think that only hindu ppl will take it to the streets?! then why did not other people protest this outragous act, or were they too f***ing busy or shall i say busy being happy to see 'Newari festival' go down? it cracks me up, when some crackheads say that it is a newar festival, next indra jatra, onyl newar ppl should be allowed to take holidays, during dahsain only hindy ppl should be allowed to do tika......doesnt it sound f***ingly insane?! then why onyl newar ppl did the protest, n others jus enjoyed the show... is it that we r so f***ing ignorant that we dont even care about our national heritage anymore?

getting down to animal sacrifice....do u knuckleheads really think u have the f***ing right to speak about animal rights... how many kukhuras, rangos, khasis, bandels have you excreted till today? u shameless hypocrits....cant live without sekuwas, bhutans, momos, khasi ko masu n u have the guts to talk about f***ing animal rights....earn it n then talk about it......m not a supporter of animal sacrifice either, but as all of u f***ers, i too dont have the right to talk about something which i myself cannot follow......or is it, that it is ok to kill animal for eating purpose.. those millions of animals in the slaughterhouse dont feel anything!

Let it be heard and seen, we stand united, n we dont fall alone either...

one last f***ing thing, if the govt had created problems, wiht any other festival, be it dashain, be it lhosaar, or be it, janai purnima, i will be there to f***ing blast the act n protest...

fingers in a hand!


 
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