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Posted on 01-10-08 11:11 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Sujata Koirala- Jost is a minister w/o portfolio now.

She will be overseeing the office of PM.

Congrats Sujata Didi.


 
Posted on 01-10-08 11:21 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Shirish,

Can you jot down few lines regarding why do you like Sujata Koirala. I am interested to know your perception about that. Thanks.


 
Posted on 01-10-08 11:59 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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What will happen to Nepal now? girija is going to ruin the country for sure.


 
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Without portfolio means "khali dimag shaitan ka ghar". Aba Gyane lai kina gali garne Paras lai

bachayo vanera. Sab ustai ho. Haddi luchhne haru.

 
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I am just wondering.....after i land at Kathmandu airport, hope its not Nepal, State of INDIA!!
Desh bechyo....abba Gayo Nepali Rastiyatha!!

 
Posted on 01-10-08 12:45 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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All around the world leadership is passed within the family as a family business. No wonder , it had been started long time , now it is declared officially.


 
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Poon Hill good question!!

 I don't think Girija is less Tyrant than Gyanendra or Prachanda.


 
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Hi Shirish -

How's it going? How were your holidays? I have on numerous occasions given Girja babu the benefit of the doubt, but this is a little too much for me to take. Even if he had to appoint someone from within the family, and I think he didn't have to, there are others in the extended Koirala family who are more capable and deserving than her. Not to mention more capable and deserving people outside the Koirala family. I guess blood is thicker than water after all.

So much for leaving behind a legacy, with every misstep like this, it makes that legacy more controversial.







 
Posted on 01-10-08 7:11 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hamri bhawishya ko PM/Rastraptini Sujata Koiralajyu lai gali nagaru. Unk under ma desh kasto ramro huncha. If u don't believe me read the article below written by Ms. Sujata ko jutta chatuta

http://nepalofficers.blogspot.com/

 

 

By Krishna Hari Pushkar, a FAQ commentary on Nepalese Women Leader

FAQ on Sujata Koirala


I would like to extend my sincere congratulations and warm greetings to Hon. Ms. Sujata Koirala for her outstanding political achievements.


Who is Sujata Koirala?

Newly appointed Hon. Minister Ms. Sujata Koirala is a strong and active women personality of Nepal Congress Party of Nepal, who holds special expertise in national and international political arena. She has been working as a capacity of chief: International Division of Nepali Congress Party. She is executive member of central committee of Nepali Congress Party and member of Interim Parliament too. Besides, only she has got a grand opportunity to observe the evolution of political and democratic development in Nepal since her childhood by empirical observation through the eyes of G.P Koirala. She is informally in active politics since her uncle BP and father GP Koirala were actively involved in the democratic revolution in Nepal despite of living and exiled life in India and after 1990 she adopted officially active political career.


Why Sujata is appointed as a Minister?

Basically her appointment is considered as a part of state commitments towards women inclusion in the overall State affairs & decisions making system. She holds more than enough political, legal and professional capabilities and is emerging as a most eligible candidate for Minister, in the Nepali Congress Party and nation too. Before blaming her as a part of nepotism or favouritism, one can also compare her with other existing and past women members of minister council. Obviously, she would be more eligible than others (7 indicators to conclude this.)

Beginning of political affiliation and activities, academic ground, professional capability, contribution for social development and welfare (She has been contributing more than the local State mechanisms through her NGOs/charity/foundations in various sector and part of Nepal), capabilities of international relation and political diplomacy, political and social hold in respective area and sector, popularity in national and international affairs, & Personal and political performance.

However, these comparisons must be based on the span of age and his/her achieved political productivity.


What are her major exclusive political contributions in Nepali Congress Party?

A. She must be congratulated for the greater role and contribution in women empowerment, and women mainstreaming works inside the parliament, government and her own male-dominated traditional political party of Nepal. B. She must be accredited for the Institutional development and internationalization of Nepali Congress party and its mechanisms. C. Her one of the major achievement is constitution and effective expansion of the various wings of Nepali Congress Party in various part of the world including Europe. D. She is only one the non-Madheshi central members of Nepali Congress Party who has been boldly raising and advocating the Madheshi and issue of minorities ethnic groups and harmoniously coordinating with various Madheshi and other ethnic leaders and parties to resolve the contemporary ethnic issues. & E. She has been maintaining very good relations with various donor agencies, global renowned personalities, international political leaders, diplomats and institutions on behalf of the Nepal Congress Party.

What are her major strengths for her political career?


A. She became top-brass women political national leader; B. She has an exceptional political backup C. She has a greater sympathy from women, and new generation’s political cadres and their supporters; D. She has one of the most strong and productive national and international political network and access E. She has emerged as a successor of existing Head of the State/Government, F. She has a strong political hold among the people and specially with the voters in respective constituency, & G decades long direct and active affiliations in social service, welfare and development through NGOs are also considered as her huge political strength


What are her major weaknesses?


A. She trusts anyone easily and speaks frankly in informal issues and ways in good faith without digging detail and analysing the people’s ground and environment B. She is considered little short tempered, highly emotional with less longanimity. C. She is straightforward and performs non-buttering/western behaviour which is still indigestible in Nepalese traditional societies and political culture D. She has failed to build an inclusive personal and professional advisory/assistive network and connections which are crucial in present context since she belongs to Madhesh region of Nepal. E. Her inefficient affiliation, role, tackle and interventional touch in national controversial issues. F.

She has often difficulties to follow up, renew and maintain update for political relation and people to people interpersonal contact due to her unmanaged political and social daily schedule. & G. Until now, she is nor much strategic neither very tactful


Why Nepalese media often highlights & affiliates her name in corruption, smuggling, and intervention, illegal and un-democratic activities?

A. Normally it is being contempt due to political ideology and basically by communist and anti- Koirala family medias due to jealous and various self-centred grievances , however, they never ever have submitted or presented any officials proofs for her any bad-doings. B. They consider Ms. Sujata as successor and synonymous image of Mr. Girija Prasad Koirala, so all the personal and political enemies and competitors of Koirala’s consider her in similar way. C. Many political leaders as well as Nepalese anti-Koirala Medias don’t like to see Koirala family anymore as a national political power and sources. They are afraid of her emerging political strength and Nepalese circumstances of political transition. They think their controversial misinterpretation and unwanted accusation on her in various issues could badly damage her personality and finally they would be able to push down her political career, & which would later make it easy to achieve their self-centred individual interests. D.She is highly active and takes deep interest in various national issues of public interests, so it is obvious that the level of mistakes could possible in the quantity-quality of performance delivery and activities ratio. & E. The prejudiced Nepalese media and her opposers often present her only as a nutcase daughter and successor of existing Prime Minister of Nepal Girija Prasad Koirala, despite the fact that she has also her own exclusive active political role, contribution and affiliation in Nepali Congress Party since decades.


Why some people consider her as hated personality?


There are no any special reasons for such pathetic perception or feeling, though her prejudiced opposers claims that She does not have any political contributions in democratic movements of Nepal despite the fact that She holds decades long political contribution, affiliation and sacrifice in various personal, political and social phenomena. In addition, they also claim, She unwontedly intervene the decision making process to fulfil her personal interest by abusing the power and authority of her father, which is black and white lie because PM Koirala has his own world where Ms. Sujata rarely gets even a chance to have an access during the decision making process in kitchen cabinet of Mr Koirala. However, the relationship as father and daughter should be considered in natural manner. People should understand it is not her fault and neither should be considered as a disqualification for anything.


Who hates her?

I have asked plenty of her opposers that why you hate her? Unfortunately no ones were able to give me even any single satisfactory reasons for why he or she hates her! Most of her haters have either misinformation/misunderstanding or no idea who is Sujata in her real personal or political ground, her qualities, her capabilities, her activities and so on. They simply say I have heard or read something nonsense about her in media, so I hate her. I think it is totally insane to hate someone without knowing him/her.


How her haters are changing to her supporters/lovers?

In my observation, she is really nice, honest, friendly, cooperative and very social person. To be honest, it is hard to have a direct meeting with her but once you get an opportunity of direct conversation or access, you will certainly change to a supporter of her. She listens and considers all rational and legitimate problems and issues in natural manner, once she is convinced, she immediately approaches to help through all possible means without knowing your political and other grounds. She has not any nonsense habits like other Nepalese certified corrupt politicians who ask first about several grounds e.g. relation, contribution, political ideology, recommendations, address, cast, sources, money, and more before to listen your problems.


Why most of her supporters very often annoyed with her?

It is just due to her poor kitchen cabinet. Her secretariats or something similar and its affiliated actors are nor good neither efficient. They bar unwontedly even important people and visitors beyond the interest of Ms. Sujata. They do not often convey your serious message or issues of public interest even to Sujata and neither properly implements the orders and instructions of Ms. Koirala. They often put her in shadow and fulfil their own personal interest by misusing the name of her. It is also pity that she is not being able to monitor and supervise the true performances of her affiliated and recruited staffs and its mechanisms.


What should Ms. Sujata immediately do for her effective, efficient and productive performance?


A. She should immediately reform her personal kitchen cabinet and secretariats and its people with relevance to contemporary perspective of Nepal B. She should make inclusive team in official and personal secretaries and advisory team because it is must for her as she belongs to the Madheshi constituency and represents national women. C. She should develop a special election oriented master strategy with reference to the help for women mainstreaming, mobilization and resolving the crucial issue of Madhesh and Madheshi and other ethnic minorities too. & D. She should include direct and effective public relation and grievances handling schedule as a part of her compulsory daily activities and routine works


What are her major challenges for the election of constitutional assembly?

For instance, one of her major challenges is Madhesh issues and to get supports from the large number of Madheshi voters in her constituency, which is not an easy job. As Madheshi doesn’t consider her as a Madheshi ethnicity and neither seems until now in the mood to support the non-Madheshi candidate in the Madhesh. However, she has huge sympathy form the Madheshi and non-Madheshi women groups and communities and she is also exceptional non-Madheshi leader who has strong and good personal coordinative relation with Madheshi leaders and parties including the leader of MPRF, Sadbhawana, TMLP, RPP, NC, and UML etc. She also significantly raises and advocates the voices of Madheshi and other deprived ethnic group’s need and interests in various official and non official national and international forums. Therefore, it would not be impossible to manage the challenges, if she uses good and systematic efforts.

Another challenge is a high expectation of women from her leadership. In addition, there are plenty of existing Parliamentarians and future political cadres who have also huge expectation from her for parliamentary tickets, pecuniary supports and more. Hence, it is natural challenges and seems manageable for her, however, urgent dynamic role and visionary steps are essential.

(Author is a peace and conflict management professional and lives in Berlin, Germany, he holds special expertise about Nepalese affairs)



 
Posted on 01-10-08 7:13 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Ya Girija's Name will be written in Golden letters as Stupid ass ,most corrupt , Leg puller ,Indian Agent and leader who divided Nepal. how can people forget so easily?
Now this is good step to strengthen  that legacy.

We should welcome new queen of Nepal. Congratulations New republic in the beginning with Different kind of Monarch.


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Posted on 01-10-08 7:20 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hi IMI -

How've you been?

To be fair, I think his legacy will depend to a large extent  on whether or not he can conduct CA elections.
 If he can then things like this could get overlooked in the grand scheme of things no matter how disgusting they now sound. Otherwise he will become Gyanendra II - someone who rose from the ashes only to be burned down by their own high handedness and short-sightedness.





 
Posted on 01-10-08 7:27 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I am doing good.Captain.How have you been?
I don't see you so much in Sajah?Busy at work?

That is the problem Captain.Nepalese people forget so easily.Well There is just hope as things are going in Nepal i cannot be too optimistic and you know haha ..my pessimistic predictions of Nepal are coming true one by one.I wish it doesn't .

 
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Two or three days before, there was women's rally in Kathmandu for 1/3 representation in ..... everywhere. And, you got Sujata! Congratulations!

From another thread:

http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/openThread.cfm?forum=2&threadid=54956

It is the most unfortunate, and unwise move of Girija at this critical time Nepali history. It is the reason, Gyanendra and Associates will laugh, and wait for a right moment.

In one news magazine, he claims to have made duplicate notes [crime against India, and Indians, and in most of the countries, this is one of biggest crime to be punished] [I am thinking whether he was trying to show great by faking the story, or really he did: I want Nepal Patrika to have cross verification of what Girija says in those articles in Nepal based on Kantipur TV interview], and was ready to involve in smuggling. He wanted to do it for democracy in his country, but my question is in order to achieve one good thing, should you drown yourself under the standard: below ethics and morality, and claim publicly what you did while you are seating on highest chair of a country representing 28 million? Is that our Nepali culture, to feel proud by doing something so worst, and claiming it a great, by fooling law abiding nation?

I feel very sorry for Nepalis. I feel deceived by Girija, for my claims in the past that Girija is the man who can stand tall and firm. Nope, he is not! I am really devasted, cheated, disappointed, upset, unhappy, and angry!

 Disgusting!

 

A Sajha.com writer who is fan of Makune, Girija, and Prachanda must be amazed by the appointment of Sujara as BinaNhibhagiya Minister (Who was that Rana Saheb used be Bina Bibhagiya Minister in Panchayat Era?).

 

Here is another posting what is wrong with our system:

http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/OpenThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=54714#539720

CopiCAT: Shame on us, we can forsee the future easily but can not do anything!!!!!

That is why we need good leadership. Leadership is to lead the people, and we don't have leadership, and therefore, we need some force that keeps united. In unRoyal Nepal, we don't have desire and motivation to be united: I mean a force to remain united. Maoists brought the concept to get us separate like oil and water, and they brought the concept of we should separate like oil and water, but not mix like milk and water. We missed the opportunity to mix like water and milk, and there is only one last opportunity for us to be united, that is we should look at the fact that Indian Raw is working actively to divide us, and Maoist project of "JANAJATI" based ruling was Indian Raw endorsed plan. But, by now we went very far from milk-water mixing state to butter-water separation state. No one can save Gyanendra's kingship, because Indian Raw has already seen either new Sikkim or new Bhutan, and our JanaJatis have gone far beyond the scope remaining united. Today, Matrika Yadav wanted to have oath in Maithili, and I am sure tomorrow all 60 Janajatis will want, and they must want why not! Once KG leaves, we will slaughter each other like in Rwanda, Euthopia, and Yugslovia, to Darfur.

Please note that we can not do anything, because the bagdor of the country is gone to wrong people, and there is no way we can get it back. I will blame it to the civil society leaders who became Maoist dogs pre and post 2006 April uprising. They could have done more homework before serving Maoists. They became propaganda machine of Maoists, and now, they are exposed, and therefore, they have no weight in Nepali public's eyes. Nepali public look them as Maoist Dogs, nothing more nothing less. Thats it.

 
 
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Posted on 01-10-08 8:06 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Shirish,

I am disappointed, but not with Girija Babu. As far as Girija Babu is concerened, he is doing the BEST he knows. He is doing what he KNOWS is the best for the country, for his party and for the people he cares.

 

And the best is the best, there is nothing more than that to ask for more. Is that not so ?

 

Who I am disappointed with is the socalled civil society of Kathmandu, particularly the ganatantrawalas, the CMDP walas.

 

It was this section of our elites that had injected hope and enthusiasm for change in the people when the latter had had enough with our political parties and were giving rat’s end to their hundreds of "nirnayak" andolans against the King between 2002-2005.

 

Remember. common Nepali folks were not coming to the street even after Gyanendra’s second and full coup d’etat of Feb 2005.

 

It was CMDP walas, who started to pound political parties to “sudhrinu” and political parties’ public commitments for “sudhaar” of themselves in rallys and in public forums, that started to give some hope to the people. Although it was the seven parties-Maoist reconciliation and commitment for change that finally captured people’s imagination and they came to the street in numbers and determination never seen before, it was CMDP walas’ initial pounding on the political parties that had sown the seed.

 

Now fast forward to the time right after Jana Andolan. Having just seen a gigantic movement of the people without politician’s leadership and people's desire for change, political parties' steps were timid, cautious and fearful of the people’s expectation. I don't know if anybody remember it anymore, however, they had started form committees and all that to reform themselves.

 

CMDP walas should have been watchful to political parties’ sincerity and jaangar.

 

Well, they just kept watching and watching and did nothing.

 

Fast forward to today. Political parties are internally back to their old business as usual. CMDP is essentially quite doing a few ritualistic karyakram here and there.

 

What happened to their dabaab and all that for reform of political parties ?

 

Oh, that now has to wait until the election of CA. This is actual reply of many CMDP walas to my questioning regarding their complacency.

 

I don’t know whether I should be patient or just get disappointed already.

 

Jasle je bhane pani, Girija Babu is the luckiest man in Nepal. He can do so much with so little thing. His getting away with what he can and his adaptation to what he can not is just amazing. As Americans say, lucky bastard !

 

Nepe   

 


 
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Yes, Nepe, Girija indeed is a lucky bastard. At the ripe age of ~seventy he was swept to power with the blessing of ChandraShekhar - yasto lai lucky nabhane ke bhanne and again was swept to power by Manmohan Singh of the "towering leader" fame. It seems he even had cosmetic surgery - his long teeth were all protruding out, now they have all gone inside.  Used to frequent in taxis now he look at him now, lived in a dark dingy room but look at him now. Damn lucky bastard! 

Now Girija has accumulated so much money that no one can dislodge him for a long time. When he goes to heavena his daughter Mrs. 20% Jost will take over. The King is almost Dead! Long Live the Queen.

Before I end my Girija shutigan - the fault doesn't lie with Girija it lies with us. The fault doesn't lie with Girijaputri it lies with us. There are still tens of thousands of people who are on Girija's pay-roll and they swear by him.

 

 

 


 
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Yes, Nepe, Girija indeed is a lucky bastard. At the ripe age of ~seventy he was swept to power with the blessing of ChandraShekhar - yasto lai lucky nabhane ke bhanne and again was swept to power by Manmohan Singh of the "towering leader" fame. It seems he even had cosmetic surgery - his long teeth were all protruding out, now they have all gone inside.  Used to frequent in taxis now he look at him now, lived in a dark dingy room but look at him now. Damn lucky bastard! 

Now Girija has accumulated so much money that no one can dislodge him for a long time. When he goes to heavena his daughter Mrs. 20% Jost will take over. The King is almost Dead! Long Live the Queen.

Before I end my Girija shutigan - the fault doesn't lie with Girija it lies with us. The fault doesn't lie with Girijaputri it lies with us. There are still tens of thousands of people who are on Girija's pay-roll and they swear by him.

 

 

 


 
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Poon Hill

I also know the political parties do not care about the future of country but their cadres and themselves. Yet, I am becoming a fan of Girija gradually.

Why ? the ultimate goal of politics is to grab power and like "Genes" "बंशाणु" to transmit to your offsprings  and create a dynasty.

Saddam Hussein tried to do that, Kim Il Sung did that. Look at Gandhis in India, look at Bhutto's in Pakistan. Look at Kennedy's and Bush's of US. What's wrong now with  Girija bringing up Sujata?  With respect to history, Sujata has not shown a "lagab" to the country, and has been involved in various activities that has harmed the country but she needs money to keep  hold inside the party. She has been successful in doing that. Bravo !! More over Girija can not deny anything what Sujata says.

And many times you (proudly or hatefully) called Girija a hawaldar. But have you ever wondered this hawaldar's capability to keep the intellectuals (from the country within and outside), and oppositions at bay, while keep friends like Prachanda and India on his side and rule the country.

He must be doing things right ! If not, why would not the (so called) intellectuals, oppositions, "revolutionary" forces, others, and his own party workers keep him at bay ? They have not (or could not) practically done anything against his policies or modus operandi, as Nepe Guru said. If all the intellectuals, oppositions etc do not say he is wrong then he must be right.  Then is he wrong ?  No !! Did he do any wrong doing ? No...If he was in fault, he would not have been in power for so long, so many times supported by intellectuals, oppositions, party cadres and Govt. of Foreign countries.

Girija...Keep going !!

Go Girija Go !!

 

 


 
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Shirish,

 

Well said. The proof is in the pudding. The fault is in being pointed to. The crime is in the punishment. The courage is not in Sajha, it’s elsewhere.

 

Mood chalya ni Shirish ko kura le.

 

Nepe


 
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Nepe

The courage is not in Sajha, it’s elsewhere.

मानेको हुं है गुरु !

 

The Sajha people (including me) are rolling stones: gathering no moss, snakes without poison !

common guys,

Lets prove Nepe wrong !

 

 


 
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ONE SHOULD UNDERSTAND THE SUCCESS OF JANA Aandolan is due to non political people.  This damn parties were dying till Civil Society gave the life to revolt.  Girija is far worse than Gyane. Look at his past. He caused all the problem after 2046.  Fu... kept Ganeshman and KP Bhattarai aside to rule the party by himself.  I was reading his autobiography, the fu.. were  Khate before 2046 How could they earn so much money after then.  Now you have Sujata. She became minister only because she is fu... daughter of Girija. Period.

 

I wish Army take bold step to fuc.. these good for nothing parties. It looks like NEPAL is  in a path of disintegration, disaster and civil war. Time is precious. And these leadres don't care anything ahead of themself.

Sujata=== Paras

 Girija==Gyane

And Prachanda Makune  are power hungry vultures. I can bet Nepal/ Terai will be part of India within next century if China does not object. And China won't object because it has its own greater china issue. Nepal will sudffer hyper inflation and will be unable to run the country. There will be more lawlessness as police/politician will handshake with criminals for money.

 

Cry for Nepal.


 



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