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Posted on 12-15-05 8:35 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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घटना विवरण

घटना शीर्षकः सेनाद्वारा १२ जना र्सवसाधारणको गैरन्यायिक हत्या
घटनास्थलः नगरकोट गाविस वडा नं ६ स्थित श्री कालिदेवी मन्दिर परिसर
घटना मितिः २०६२ मंसिर २९ गते राति ११ बजे
पीडकः शाही नेपाली सेना
पीडितः नगरकोट गाविसका स्थानीय र्सवसाधारण

मृतकहरुको नाम र उमेर
१. भगवान तामाङ, -४० वर्ष
२. आइते तामाङ, -४० वर्ष
३. रामलाल नगरकोटी, -४० वर्ष
४. माया तामाङ, -२० वर्ष
५. सुजन श्रे ष्ठ, -३० वर्ष
६. रामप्रसाद पन्थ, -२५ वर्ष
७. काले तामाङ, -२० वर्ष
८. नानु नगरकोटी, -२० वर्ष
९. निरु तामाङ, -२५ वर्ष
१०. दीपक तामाङ, -५ वर्ष
११. धमाइ लामा, -११ वर्ष
१२. दीपक तामाङ, -वर्ष नखुलेको
१३. वासुदेव थापा, -२७ वर्ष -नुवाकोट घर भई नगरकोटस्थित सेनाको शिक्षालयमा
कार्यरत सिपाही )

घटनामा घाइते भएकाहरुः
१. निरज तामाङ
२. भीमबहादुर तामाङ
३. कालु तामाङ
४. सपना लामा
५. प्रविण शाह
६. रामकुमार नगरकोटी
७. कृष्णबहादुर तामाङ
८. जगत तामाङ
९. राम पहारी
१०. रामभक्त नगरकोटी
११. पूण तामाङ
१२. सुकलाल नगरकोटी
१३. गोपाल पहारी

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Posted on 12-15-05 12:37 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Royal Palace Massacre and Nagarkot Massacre

Both incidents in Narayanhity Durbar and Nagagrkot Barracks have many things in common. Everybody in Palace or Army barracks can reach to the most dangerous man killing weapons and kill anybody at anytime. Nagarkot has a military training camp.Royal Palace has Royal army barrack.Official news from the army said it was mistakenly killed. We all know that it is 100% lie. and 150,000 Rps compensation news came quickly this morning to milder the news and to calm the family and nepali people. This amount money is almost negligible to this family at this time. This is not a cow slaughter. You can buy a next cow with this money.But the families cannot make living from this money.The families depend on those people who died.150,000 Rps is nothing. Royal family spends this amount money on shoe polishing.
First all responsible people must resign from their posts including king as commander in chief of Royal Nepal Army.
All army camps should be moved to 10 to 20 Kilometers out of reach of local settlements.
Very omportant question: What about other armymen and the royal family members.
We cannot believe that we are safe. Paras is still using drugs and using firearms in hotels , discos and Pokhara Basar. He is threatening even his collegues CDOS and police officials. Who believes that he will not use those guns on them proving that he is a incarnation of UDAYA HUSAIN.
Nagarjun Summer palace and its security army barracks must be removed from nagarjun jungle.
Those murder of two foreigners a french and a german nationals made a big question marks on Nagarjun security army men.But there has been a lot of such inceidents sexual physical abuse with local nepali people in Balaju area. They all know it there but they do not dare to talk about this subjects.If they do, there might be a another guy staying in front of your door with such guns.
People there in Balaju are scared to talk about this subject.

Royal army must be changed into nepal army without the king as a commander in chief. Prince Paras should go to drug rehabilitaion course and join medaitation classes instead of gun shooting courses to avoid such accident again in Royal Palace or Nirmal Palace.

Royal Nepal Army should be changed into Nepal Ármy.

हे देवता कालि! नलेउ भोग सिधासाधा जनताहरुको
यो जंगिशासन तेक्‍न नदेउ पुग्‍यो अब बग्‍न अब रगतको

बिष्‍णु अबतारलाई अझ्‍झै रगतको प्‍यास मरेको छैन
गुरु गोरखनाथ पुरा गरन लगाउ बिन्‍ति बाह्रपुस्‍ता साध्‍यको..
 
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स्थलगत अध्ययन टोलीको नाममा " १३ दीपक आचार्य ,चितवन डट कम " को नाम कहाँ बाट आयो ?????????????????????????



मेरो सन्सार डट कम डट एन पी मा त छैन त त्यो नाम।

"कपि-पेस्ट टोली" मा हुनु पर्ने नाम उता परेको जस्तो छ।
 
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Bhaute that was interesting

Is Rimote = दीपक आचार्य ,चितवन डट कम ???? perhaps just self advertisement
 
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इराकमा बन्धक बनाइएका सबै १२ जना नेपालीलाई मंगलवार इस्लामिक लडाकु समूहले हत्या गरेको दावा गदै हत्या गरिएका नेपालीहरुको फोटोलाई एक इस्लामिक वेब साइटमा जारी गरेकोछ ।
एक जना बन्धकको शिर क्षेदन गर्दै गरेको भिडियो इमेजः वायांबाट क्रमशः १ र २, काटिएको शिर देखाउर्ंर्दै ३, अन्य मृतकहरु इमेज ४ मा
आतंकवादी संगठन द अर्मी अफ अन्सार अल सुन्नाहका सैन्य समितिले वेब साइटमा दिएको सन्देशमा
भनेकाछन् - हामीले भगवानको आदेश पालन गर्दै १२ जना नेपालीहरुका हत्या गरेका छौं ,
जो मुस्लिमसंग लड्न र यहुदी तथा इर्साईहरुको मददको लागि आफ्नो देशबाट यहां आएका थिए ।

आतंकवादी संगठनद्धारा जारी फोटोमा दर्ुइजना नकाबधारीलाई देखाइएको छ जसमा एक जना
बन्धकको शिर छेदन गरेर हावामा हल्लाई रहेको देखाइएको छ भने अर्को फोटोमा अन्य बन्धकहरु
घोप्टो जमिनमा पल्टिएको देखाइएको छ र पिंठ््यूमा गोलीका दागहरु देखिएको छ ।

मृतक नेपाली बन्धकहरु जार्ंडनको कम्पनी अर्न्तर्गत काम गर्न त्यहां पुगेका थिए । ती नेपालीहरुलाई
अमेरिकी सुरक्षाकर्मीलाई सहयोग गरेको आरोपमा झण्डै दर्ुइ हप्ता अघि बन्धक बनाइएका थिए ।

इराकमा हत्या गरिएका १२ जना नेपालीहरु
खोटांग, काहुले ४ का ज्ञानेन्द्र श्रेष्ठ,
खोटांग, चिसापानी ८ का राजेन्द्रकुमार श्रेष्ठ,
धनुषा, हक्लाजिन १ का मनोजकुमार ठाकुर,
धनुषा, सखुवा महेन्द्रनगर १ का बुधनकुमार साह सुढी,
धनुषा, मानसिंपट्टी १ का सञ्जयकुमार ठाकुर, धनुषा,
हरिहरपुर २ का ललनसिंह कोइरी,
गोरखा बक्राङ ५ का जीतबहादुर थापा,
ललितपुर लेले ८ का रमेश खड्का,
धनकुटा, हात्तर्ीखर्क ४ का मंगलबहादुर लिम्बू,
रोल्पा, कुरेली १ का छोकबहादुर थापा,
झापा तोपगाछी ७ का प्रकाश अधिकारी र
लमजुङ, भोटेवडार ५ का बिष्णुहरि थापा ।

 
Posted on 12-16-05 2:51 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Poor us-- we are screwed. We can't even trust our own army. Where are we headed ? Is it about time we kept guns in our home to protect our family? Damn the leaders of our country. Damn the high ranking military officials of our country.

May god grant peace to the victims of this massacare.
 
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I sympathize with the people who lost their lives and my condolences to their friends & family.

"The RNA has long history of human rights abuses"
Please name one country in this planet Earth that doesn't have long human right abuses history during a time of turmoil or war...how about a powerful & civilized USA who is just working on passing a Torture Ban...how about China...look what they have done to Tibetans and which country or even the UN has done anything to stand up for this issue.....how about our neighbor India....have you read recent news on how Indian army jawans have raped so many young girls in Kashmir??

I'm not trying to attack anyone's viewpoint here since we are all entitled to our freedom of speech. Before we create propaganda & start the blaming game why can't we wait for full investigation on this issue and find out the truth behind this? Why jump to conclusions by just reading the news? How about you are innocent until you are proven guilty?
 
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I agree with what harkay says. However, the injustice or human rights abuses in other countries including doesn't justify us to do the same.

Regarding innocent until proven guilty, they have brilliant solution for this. The murderer was murdered though the bullet fired from the sky; so the case is already closed before the investigation can start.
 
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"The murderer was murdered though the bullet fired from the sky; so the case is already closed before the investigation can start."

We don't know the facts as to why the murderer was shot? How do we know he was not a threat anymore to anyone? Was he asked to put down his weapon? Does someone have actual facts based on witness or are we trying to create our own realities of the situation?
 
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As I said earlier, the case is already closed and all we can do now is speculation. Otherwise why the guy was shot and why all the clues about the assasination were removed before the investigation starts. We all know that noone is even allowed to touch before the forensic team arrives. So my opinion is that the committee is not going to come with any surprising result n' it would just be a formality for the closing of the case.
 
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I don't know but is there is forensic team in Nepal?

Recent news.
http://www.nepalitimes.com/issue277/headline.htm
 
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As has been the Nepalese bureaucratic tradition, this case is foreclosed with all the results and conclusion fabricated by those in power.
However, this should not discourage us from discussing possible dimensions of the occurence and its implications in the overal political development in the country.
 
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"The army was cleaning up the temple, and one unit had gone off in search of the Pipalbot gang. Most villagers were sick of the ruffians and wanted the gang caught.

The army, for once, reacted swiftly and went into damage control mode promptly providing a detailed description of the event to media, getting the Home Ministry to set up a civilian investigation led by a former chief justice and announcing a Rs 150,000 compensation to the next of kin. The RNA also took a busload of reporters to the Chhauni military hospital where 16 wounded were being treated. Members of the UN�s Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights and the NHRC were also at the site Thursday to investigate."

All of the above happened only after cleaning the site and collecting the bullets.

Some eyewitness (video reports) tell that there was as much as 200 rounds of fires but it won't be surprising if committee finds out that there were only 20 rounds as the evidence has already been cleaned up to make it easier to come with any desired conclusion.
 
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Don�t play with fire

The massacre at Nagarkot on Wednesday night drives home the point that continued militarisation can have unintended and tragic consequences. This was not just one drunken soldier running amok, it is symptomatic of a deeper malaise in a military-minded political class that believes everything can be resolved with force.
Protesters burning tyres during the valleywide shutdown strike, Friday, Dec 16 05. nepalnews.com
Protesters burning tyres during the valleywide shutdown strike, Friday, Dec 16 05. nepalnews.com

Nepal has now got to a point where security can no longer be defined in only military terms. Unless citizens are guaranteed a decent life, jobs, health care, education and a future, guns will not quell their anger.

Although the army was quicker than usual in coming out with a detailed explanation of the Nagarkot massacre, there are still some unanswered questions:

� How many other soldiers were with Sgt Basudeb Thapa when he returned to the temple with the assault rifle?
� Why was he carrying a gun while in civvies?
� Doesn�t the RNA have a policy on drunkenness of its soldiers while on furlough?
� Not that this makes any difference now, but did Basudeb kill himself or was he shot by a fellow-soldier?
� Why was he allowed to check out a gun at the barracks when everyone could see he was drunk?
� Why was someone with a history of violence-prone drunkenness allowed to keep serving in the army?

The answer to some of these questions could be that we should pose these questions to those right at the top of the army hierarchy too. Given the frequency of such behaviour in the past, it is clear Nagarkot was just waiting to happen.

The investigation commission will come out with its report next week, and we may get some of the answers. But no commission will address the culture of arrogance, violence and hierarchical indiscipline that was tolerated and gave rise to such atrocities. Given the militarisation that the country is going through, however, we doubt if these issues will ever be adequately addressed within the army.

As we write these words, smokes from tyre pyres are once more curling up into the winter morning sky from various parts of Kathmandu Valley. Once more, our myopic political parties frustrated by the lack of public support for their agitation are trying to make hay while the sun shines by trying to jumpstart their anti-king agitation.

This is nothing new, they have been known for political opportunism and irresponsible incitement while in power, they did it on 1 September when they unleashed Nepal�s first ever politically-coordinated communal pogrom. And now they are playing with fire again by unleashing terror on the streets that could easily turn ethnic.

We spoke to some onlookers watching the student unions and hired goons burning tyres and stoning cars on the streets on Friday morning. The people are shocked but not surprised by the Nagarkot carnage and they utterly condemn it. But neither do they have any sympathy for those who use that tragedy for their own political ends.

But ultimately, given that all this has happened under direct royal rule and the king has effectively removed a democratic buffer the massacre and its aftermath will all reflect on him.

Courtesy : Nepali Times

(Editor�s Note: Nepalis, wherever they live, as well as friends of Nepal around the globe are requested to contribute their views/opinions/recollections etc. on issues concerning present day Nepal to the Guest Column of Nepalnews. Length of the article should not be more than 1,000 words and may be edited for the purpose of clarity and space. Relevant photos as well as photo of the author may also be sent along with the article. Please send your write-ups to editors@mos.com.np)
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Thapa did not commit suicide: HURON

A leading human rights group has claimed that Royal Nepalese Army (RNA) soldier, Basudev Thapa-- who killed one dozen villagers at a local fair at Nagarkot on Wednesday -- did not commit suicide as being reported by officials and some section of the media.

The Human Rights Organisation of Nepal (HURON) has also accused the RNA of trying to cover up the incident.

Addressing a press meet in Kathmandu on Saturday, the HURON said its eight-member probe team found that the Royal Nepalese Army personnel had removed evidence like cartridge shells, firearms and blood stain and clothes from the site at Chihandada village in Nagarkot VDC, some 28 km east of Kathmandu.

The army had blamed soldier, Basudev Thapa, for resorting to shooting spree after a brawl with local youths during the fair. The army further said Thapa turned the gun on himself after the incident.

However, the rights activists said Thapa's body had bullet wounds in the chest that were unlikely to be self-inflicted.

At a press conference here Saturday, Kathmandu-based Huron said a Nepali daily had reported in its editorial that Thapa, who had picked up a fight with some people at the fair, returned from the barracks around midnight with five other companions in plainclothes.

Huron said that the army was yet to rebut the report. The HURON team quoted eyewitnesses as saying that instead of sealing the scene of crime, soldiers arrived there on Thursday morning and tried to clean up the blood and carried away arms and cartridge shells.

Qualified doctors did not do the post- mortem of the bodies in the hospital, the rights group said.

Malla K. Sundar, a member of the HURON probe team, said this was not the first time the army had been involved in human rights violations.

"They have killed civilians and tried to project it as an encounter with Maoists, they have raped and killed schoolchildren," he said. "This is the result of the culture of impunity that protects perpetrators in the Royal Nepalese Army."

Another investigator and former member of the National Human Rights Commission, Kapil Shrestha, said the killings were a civilian crime.

"When the government has instituted a commission headed by a former judge to investigate the shootout, there's no rationale for the army to institute a separate probe panel," he said.

"This shows the army is running a parallel government in Nepal."

The team also said that it was a common sight to see soldiers carrying weapons even when they were not in uniform.

"The army is deliberately encouraging this kind of indiscipline and it would prove to be very damaging in the long run," he said.

The RNA is yet to respond to the HURON report. nepalnews.com by Dec 17 05
 
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ha ha ha

ke tyarra tyarra aawaaj aayo bhenera herko ta chepagaanda haru ko hunkaar po rahicha

ha ha ha!
 
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Yo HURON bhanne bahula haru ko club le ke ke falakdai hidcha, tyasko jawaaf dinu nai parcha bhanne cha?

Btw, Malla K Sundar, a hardcore communist and boot-licker of Makune, is the big shot in HURON. What credibility does he have to demand a response from anyone?

Sabai chepagaandaa haru lai chetana bhaya.
 
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HE is a Nepali CITIZEN.

That, if nothing else, gives him a right to ask for an explanation.

That, if nothing else, is enough reason for the state to respond to his question.
 



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